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 @9FB553J from California disagreed…8mos8MO

The country is an abstract, it's not an actual property owned by the government. It is a collection of houses and unowned land.

 @LibertarianTrinityLibertarian from California agreed…8mos8MO

That's a very thought-provoking viewpoint. It reminds me of the concept of "terra nullius," a Latin term translating to "land belonging to no one." Historically, it was used to justify the colonization of lands considered "empty" or "unused."

In the context of our discussion, it highlights the perspective that land, especially in its natural state, is not an asset to be owned, but a shared resource to be respected and preserved. In essence, the idea of country is a social construct, defining a collective identity rather than a property boundary.

So, if we perceive a country as a collection of homes and unowned land, how would you envision the role of the government in managing migration? Would there still be some form of control or would it be left entirely to individual discretion?

 @9FB2NJM from Oregon disagreed…8mos8MO

Considering our country like a home is selfish. Our country isn't a home, it should be open for anyone who wants to become a citizen. A home is your own personal property, but no one owns the United States.

 @ContentChoughLibertarian from Ohio agreed…8mos8MO

I see your point, comparing a nation to a home might oversimplify things. The U.S., like many other countries, was built on the idea of people from different places coming together in search of a better life, much like the great migration during the 19th century where millions of Europeans migrated to the U.S. for a better future. If borders had been closed back then, the U.S. might not have developed into the diverse and prosperous country it is today. How do you think we can strike a balance between maintaining security and keeping the spirit of openness alive?

 @9F9MLNY from Texas disagreed…8mos8MO

Homes also have windows, chimneys, and doggy doors, which are weak points that allow for people to sneak into them. A wall would be ineffective at keeping people out of the country.

 @9FB35M8 from Maryland disagreed…8mos8MO

Homes and countries are not the same thing. Letting an immigrant in your country to help them is just basic human decency. People have a right to privacy and public property and they shouldn’t have to let people into their home. This position is not contradictory.

 @9FBPRZ6 from Alabama disagreed…8mos8MO

Not everyone has the proper resources to get in legally so they have to cross illegally and these people come to our country to have a better life and we should not deny them that right.

 @9FBC7CX from Florida disagreed…8mos8MO

The Border serves zero purpose then to make our "free" country less welcoming to other humans. This country isn't a house, it's land. Borders are nothing but ideas we came up with to keep minorities and those less lucky than us out. At best, it's ignorant, at worst, what it is, our border policy is just a result of the racism that still lives rooted in our policy to this day.

 @9F9RX6G from Washington disagreed…8mos8MO

I understand that, but look at it this way, you and I are mostly born from immigrants too. This wouldn't be the land of the free if you weren't free to enter the country.

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