Morality came from our evolved senses and thoughts over the course of our existence, forming from emotions, logic, thoughts, desires, and yes, in part, religions that created set codes. Its origin and evolution points only partially to god during the age of European dominance over the northern hemisphere. A higher power was used as an explanation and simplifying factor for what we couldn’t understand about our own minds and thoughts. Morality is very much objective, but decisions made using different moral principles will very much differ, as our realities are based upon assumptions about what is factual, and are therefore liable to extreme amounts of faultiness regardless of what most people think.
Morality may be complicated, but it’s not subjective, and simplifying it down to religion to make it more palatable and clear as an objective thing doesn’t make religion its source. Every logical argument for god must come with assumptions that cannot be proven or disproven, while god’s existence requires empirical proof that cannot be proven or disproven, merely putting us at a stalemate of finding whatever information we can that would be somewhat close to empirical, hence, this conversation where both of us attempt to use logic as if it’s empirical, then use assumptions to claim it is.
There are very much rational explanations for these things, the fact that intent plays a role in what is bad or not is just one factor, the same way as effect is. You play religious moral codes as your personal set of assumptions since they’re more concrete and attempt to clarify the complicated concepts of morality itself, though I do not because I’m more inclined for a case-by-case perspective without a strong moral code, since those codes are capable of shattering in the face of things with extreme amounts of convolution or nuance. You claiming religion as the sole factor of morality is rather similarly over-encompassing as you view my own thought process of labor being the source of valu… Read more
I cited effect as one of many factors
Apparently you forgot to provide other factors. If you'd like to do so now, please do, I'll be glad to debunk them.
Morality came from our evolved senses and thoughts over the course of our existence,
Begging the Question again. (I'm noticing a trend.) This is what we're supposed to be debating. You're not supposed to be spewing it as if it's some accepted fact. I provided powerful evidence against it, which you've chosen to largely ignore, and not answer logically, instead just restating the very thing we're discussi… Read more
