If someone was an economic centrist, but was socially and politically far-right, would you still consider them "moderate but not right-wing"? What exactly are you basing your "right-wing" vs "left-wing" positioning on?
Additionally, what do you consider "economic liberty"? Because I would argue that right-wing economics are NOT in favor of economic liberty, since capitalism (a fundamentally right-wing economic system) has an inherent and structural class hierarchy that divides people based on whether or not they are actually allowed economic liberty, in which the capital-owing class has economic liberty, but the working class does not. So already we have a fundamental disagreement on the only criteria you provided for determining "left" vs "right"...so obviously that's not a very useful or objective metric.
Personally, I would argue that "right-wing" economics are classified by privatized ownership of the means of production...would you agree or disagree with that?
Lastly, if you think Hitler was left-wing, then why did he consider communists, socialists, anarchists, labor union leaders, etc. to be political opposition? Why did he put all of the actual leftists in concentration camps with the red triangle badge, signifying "political prisoners", if he was also left-wing like you claim? Why do political historians, both today and back then, disagree with you? Why is it that the only people today who still fly Nazi flags are openly right-wing? Why do modern-day Neo-Nazis endorse Republicans? Why is it that far-right figures and commentators use such similar rhetoric as the Nazis? There's simply too many things you would have to blatantly ignore to genuinely insist on the claim you're making here.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution4mos4MO
Right-wing people support economic liberty but are in general more willing to see the government spy on its civilians via unconstitutional surveillance, and some rightists subscribe to an interventionist foreign police. Left-wing people support economic tyranny with a massive regulatory bureaucracy but are in general less willing to see the government spy on its civilians, and originally many supported a policy of peace and non-intervention, though sadly this has wavered away in recent years, especially under the current warmongering occupant of the White House, who has sent billions to Ukrai… Read more
@VulcanMan6 4mos4MO
Right-wing people support economic liberty...
Again, I already explained to you that I believe "the right" is fundamentally ANTI-economic liberty, so obviously this buzzword claim is not inherent or objective on its own.
By economic liberty, I mean a laissez-faire (from French Laissez Nous Faire, or Leave Us Alone) system wherein individuals are free to make economic transactions and trade with one another without any regulation, or any form of plunder, legal (taxation) or illegal (theft), with a system of written property deeds and land titles, a Gold-backed, uninflatible currency,… Read more
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Again, I already explained to you that I believe "the right" is fundamentally ANTI-economic liberty, so obviously this buzzword claim is not inherent or objective on its own.
And I offered a different perspective. Is that not allowed...?
A big problem is that your interpretation of economic liberty doesn't even apply to all right-wing ideologies. If this is genuinely how you define economic liberty, then your initial claim that "right wing people support economic liberty" already excludes every right-wing ideology that isn't YOUR hyper-specific branch of Anarcho-Ca… Read more
@VulcanMan6 4mos4MO
And I offered a different perspective. Is that not allowed...?
Right, that's the point: you and I have fundamentally different interpretations of what "economic liberty" means, hence why I argued that it is not a good metric of determining a left or right ideology, since both sides can claim they believe in it and the other doesn't. It was a counter to your previous assertion that economic liberty is a right-wing value/belief. Obviously it is something else that is a determining factor...
I'm not an Anarcho-Capitalist
Yea I think I confused you with another… Read more
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but you did say: "Right-wing people support economic liberty but are in general more willing to see the government spy on its civilians via unconstitutional surveillance, and some rightists subscribe to an interventionist foreign police. Left-wing people support economic tyranny with a massive regulatory bureaucracy but are in general less willing to see the government spy on its civilians, and originally many supported a policy of peace and non-intervention, though sadly this has wavered away in recent years, especially under the current warmongering occupant of the White House..."… Read more