Because creationism is straight up false, and unless you teach the creationist ideals of every religion in a HISTORICAL context rather than presenting it as fact, it is, in many forms, unfounded and state-sponsored conversion. Not everyone agrees with said “civic virtues” on a lot of areas. Less than 40% support a gay marriage ban, yet that’s a “civic virtue” of the Bible. Would you ban that? No, it’s a disgusting idea to govern a country by religious ideals because it ALWAYS throws someone, somewhere, someway out of the equation and openly discriminated against them. Even if the government preaches kindness to minorities, they enable hate as they remove minority rights because of their religious beleifs. It’s an extremely unstable idea to bring the two together, and there’s nothing stopping said Christian beliefs from being affected and manipulated by churches themselves, and if we hav ego fight against one specific religion to stop it from literallly corrupting the soul of America, why the hell did we change away from the separation in the first place? The separation of church and state is better, it’s stable, it’s fair, not the one-way path where churches walk in and government is forced to do nothing.
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"Because creation is straight up false"? Hate to burst your bubble, but that's another fallacy. You're essentially arguing that "Evolution/alternative religions are true because creationism is false," thereby begging the question and reasoning in a vicious circle. Another fallacy you used was the appeal to the majority, claiming that because less than 40% support a "gay marriage" ban than homosexual sodomy MUST be morally upright. Finally, you finished your illogical tirade by (again!) sidestepping my question of how teaching biblical values infringes upon freedom of worship by assuming your own position in a second vicious circle. I'm sick of the fallacies, if you're going to argue with me, than you might as well learn HOW to argue first....
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I’m saying that if we do teach creationism, it’s from standpoint of historical context, not as an actual scientific theory, not because it’s controversial, but because it’s not scientific. That wouldn’t be begging the question, that’s stating the obvious. There is no scientific basis behind creationism besides what the Bible (a 2,000 year old book with little evidence it was actually written by the instruction of a god) states, and that is not a basis for a scientific model. Evolution on the other hand has been researched for centuries, and has basis, as… Read more
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Ironically, in trying to prove you did NOT beg the question you have again begged it by claiming creationism is "not scientific" and your worldview is, which has been established by any logic in this discussion. I won't bother to critique the rest of the paragraph because it really falls apart from the very first line.
For "gay marriage" it is not an issue of liberty vs control, as marriage, by definition, comes with legal recognition, societal respect & praise, and tax benefits. When the LGBTQ cultists ask to "legalise" "marriage" between two… Read more
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Dear lord you act surprised when being called a bigot and then spout this utter bull. Let’s start from the beginning, you assume the intent of gay people as if you understand them in the slightest, but in this conversation alone, you have called them delusional, “cultists”, “abominable” (their “practices” at the very least), and as far as calling their legalization propaganda. I am LGBTQ myself, I have talked to THOUSANDS of that population, and they’re just want to live happily, that’s all they really want. The reason pride parades happen… Read more
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That's a mouthful of fallacies. Let's examine them. "spout this utter bull." That's begging the question because the notion that it is utter bull has not yet been logically established, indeed that's the very point in question. "You assume the intention gay people as if you understand them in the slightest." Well, you're also kind of assuming the intention of conservatives by smearing them as bigots motivated by prejudice, when, in fact, they are realists motivated by a desire for the truth to be known and virtue to be encouraged. So appealing to… Read more
