The following is a 3 message exchange between 2 users
@9GGHH6H 7mos7MO
There is no biological difference between a new born baby and a baby who is about to be born, meaning birth does not determine personhood. If it does not there must be some other point at which the fetus becomes human. While I could see an argument that this should be heartbeat/brain activity, in my opinion the best candidate is conception, since this is the moment the fetus comes into existence genetically.
@9GGS39Z7mos7MO
Regardless of "when it become human" the life of an unborn child should never be more important than the life of the mother. The child cannot do anything for society for about 16-19 years so why should the life of the mother be sacrificed to save some clump of cells you claim is human?
@9GGHH6H7mos7MO
Ignoring the obviously dark implications of tying a person's worth to their value to society, that would only justify abortion in the case of the mother's life being threatened. Otherwise you could justify literal child murder in the case that mother does not want her kids or that it would benefit society for them to be killed
