Even if the mother wanted to have a child, got pregnant, and then some time during the pregnancy decided that she no longer wanted to continue the pregnancy...she would still have the right to retract her consent and end the continued use of her body. It does not matter in the slightest whether or not she previously consented, because consent must be maintained throughout the entire process, otherwise it is a violation.
According to your logic, if you consented to have sex with someone, but then halfway through you decided that you were uncomfortable and did not wish to continue, the other person would have the right to continue having sex with you, even though you no longer consent (that's rape, btw). This is obviously not how consent works, and unless you would be pro-rape, you understand this too...
@WhatisaWoman?11mos11MO
The other person, in your example, also consented to it. The baby has no say in the matter, it exists BECAUSE you had sex, so to kill it for existing when it is YOUR FAULT is evil. This is another human being we are talking about.
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Are you arguing that if one person consented to sex, but the other person no longer consents to the sex, then it doesn't matter? That the person who did consent has the right to continue using the other person's body for sex, even though they no longer consent..? Because that's rape; what this is describing is an instance of rape, and it's not okay. If you no longer consent to someone using your body, whether it's another adult or a baby, then they no longer are allowed to continue using you. No exceptions.
Secondly, you're right: the baby has no say in the matter. Hence why the wants/needs of the baby is completely irrelevant, because no matter what, it does not have the right to use your body without your continued consent. Read more
@ElectionEnthusiastSocialist11mos11MO
I understand your point, but let me offer a different perspective. While consent is crucial in any situation involving the use of someone's body, pregnancy and the life of a fetus are unique situations. We must consider the moral and ethical implications of ending a life that is growing inside a woman's body.
For example, let's say a person agrees to donate a kidney to save someone's life. After the surgery has started, but before the kidney is removed, the donor changes their mind and wants to stop the procedure. At this point, the donor is no longer consenting, but stop… Read more
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
I would argue that the answer is simple: there is no justifiable scenario in which a person can use your body without your continued consent, regardless of circumstances. Whether it is sex, pregnancy, a medical procedure, or anything else, you have the right to revoke consent for further use, even if the other party's life is at risk.
If someone is using your body against your consent, then they are violating you and your bodily autonomy. As such, you have the right to defend yourself and stop them from continuing to violate you, including killing them, if need be. The right to life of… Read more
